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	<title>Comments on: This is supposed to be simple, right?</title>
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		<title>By: emag</title>
		<link>http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/2007/02/22/this-is-supposed-to-be-simple-right/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>emag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren:

After seeing the shenanigans that go on with feeds in general, I can fully understand why you&#039;d have abandoned your own.  What I don&#039;t understand is why you seem to be such a masochist as to have done it repeatedly. :-)

The more I look at all the minor variations and the organic growths that have attached themselves to RSS, the mare I think &quot;that can wait until someone wants it&quot;.  There are a LOT of interesting ideas that people have implemented to try to ease their own burdens, but so much seems to be poorly documented, invalidly specified, or both.  I think I&#039;ve currently got a happy medium (or at least a lowest common denominator) to pull and store basic info, but anything fancy will definitely need to wait for later.

Looking at my own MP3 and OGG collection, I have to admit that I&#039;m guilty of poor tagging myself.  AND I&#039;m really bad about personal backups.  Man, you&#039;ve pegged me, along with most of the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren:</p>
<p>After seeing the shenanigans that go on with feeds in general, I can fully understand why you&#8217;d have abandoned your own.  What I don&#8217;t understand is why you seem to be such a masochist as to have done it repeatedly. <img src='http://blog.gurski.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The more I look at all the minor variations and the organic growths that have attached themselves to <acronym title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</acronym>, the mare I think &#8220;that can wait until someone wants it&#8221;.  There are a LOT of interesting ideas that people have implemented to try to ease their own burdens, but so much seems to be poorly documented, invalidly specified, or both.  I think I&#8217;ve currently got a happy medium (or at least a lowest common denominator) to pull and store basic info, but anything fancy will definitely need to wait for later.</p>
<p>Looking at my own MP3 and OGG collection, I have to admit that I&#8217;m guilty of poor tagging myself.  AND I&#8217;m really bad about personal backups.  Man, you&#8217;ve pegged me, along with most of the rest of the world. <a href="http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/viewcomments/2944818528" rel="nofollow">View all comments by emag</a></p>
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		<title>By: Warren Henning</title>
		<link>http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/2007/02/22/this-is-supposed-to-be-simple-right/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren Henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how much it matters but I have started and abandoned aggregator projects three or four times because of this. So, I feel your pain.

Anyone who thinks the Semantic Web has a chance of succeeding needs to take a realistic look at how badly people implement even simple data formats in the real world. RSS should be a simple thing. It isn&#039;t. Now throw some weirdo first-order logic and design-y RDF knowledge representation yadda-yadda stuff I don&#039;t understand where your inference capabilities are only as strong as the weakest link in the data sources you&#039;re integrating, and you&#039;re setting yourself up for failure, as I see it.

People, even smart people, often cannot produce quality data or quality metadata. Their MP3 collections are poorly tagged, they don&#039;t back up their precious files, they don&#039;t even have complete albums for their digital music. That is the simple truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how much it matters but I have started and abandoned aggregator projects three or four times because of this. So, I feel your pain.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks the Semantic Web has a chance of succeeding needs to take a realistic look at how badly people implement even simple data formats in the real world. <acronym title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</acronym> should be a simple thing. It isn&#8217;t. Now throw some weirdo first-order logic and design-y <acronym title="Resource Description Framework">RDF</acronym> knowledge representation yadda-yadda stuff I don&#8217;t understand where your inference capabilities are only as strong as the weakest link in the data sources you&#8217;re integrating, and you&#8217;re setting yourself up for failure, as I see it.</p>
<p>People, even smart people, often cannot produce quality data or quality metadata. Their MP3 collections are poorly tagged, they don&#8217;t back up their precious files, they don&#8217;t even have complete albums for their digital music. That is the simple truth. <a href="http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/viewcomments/2016874305" rel="nofollow">View all comments by Warren Henning</a></p>
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