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		<title>By: emag</title>
		<link>http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/2008/03/06/mobile-phone-wishlist/comment-page-1/#comment-945</link>
		<dc:creator>emag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy, thanks for the feedback.  To address the points you made...

Actually, there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a date on the post, apparently in the theme I&#039;m currently using it&#039;s at the bottom:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This entry was written by emag and posted on March 6, 2008 at 10:09 pm and filed under ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Though it&#039;s a bit lighter than the rest of the text, so it&#039;s pretty easy to miss.

Also, the link to phonescoop has an &quot;Edit search&quot; link, which in this case goes to their &quot;weighted&quot; search page (and with all the weights that I put in for that particular link).  There&#039;s also a simpler &quot;unweighted&quot; search that just lets you enumerate features, but that wasn&#039;t nearly as helpful, since some features ARE more important to me than others, I just didn&#039;t feel like trying to come up with a definitive ranking when I was writing the blog post last night. :-)


As a brief followup, I&#039;ve also been hitting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;, as well as the bigger GSM carriers&#039; sites (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.t-mobile.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;T-Mobile&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wireless.att.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AT&amp;T/Cingular&lt;/a&gt; here in the states), but by far in terms of searching based on specific features, phonescoop is by far the best, with Amazon coming in second of where I&#039;ve looked.

Since my wife (that still sounds so strange!) deals with Blackberries at work, and has an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;older one&lt;/a&gt; through them, I&#039;ve played with it a bit, but wasn&#039;t too fond of the scroll wheel since it was basically 1-dimensional navigation.  I&#039;d expressed an interest to her in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1280&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blackberry 8820&lt;/a&gt;, which she happened to actually work on today and suggested that we stop by an AT&amp;T store so I could see if I liked it.  It&#039;s actually a lot nicer than the BB8700 that she has through work, as it has a scroll ball instead of a wheel (yay, 2-D nav!).

I also looked at a few other phones, including the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1319&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BB Curve 8310&lt;/a&gt;, the current &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1072&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palm Treo 680&lt;/a&gt;, and some Windows-based phones.  Interface-wise, I really liked the Treo, since I&#039;ve been using PalmOS for 10 or so years, but it of course lacks Wi-Fi which I still consider *the* feature.  

The Windows phones, especially the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1186&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pantech Duo C810&lt;/a&gt; was really neat, hardware-wise, with 2 separate sliders, one for the numeric pad and one for a keyboard, but I couldn&#039;t really get past the Windows interface.  Yeah, I&#039;m probably really biased in that regard, but it just felt...clunky.

The BB 8820 and BB C 8310 were fairly nice to navigate and play with, and also have added explicit &quot;back&quot; and &quot;menu&quot; buttons that made using them a bit less-confusing.

I even, though I&#039;m reluctant to admit it, picked up an iPhone to try out.  Apparently I&#039;m really NOT the target audience for the thing, as my very first comment had to do with all the fingerprints, and my second was something along the lines of &quot;how the hell do I get off of this screen?&quot; (the last person to use it had left it on some app, and it was non-obvious to me how to get back to the main icon page).  It was sleek and shiny (and greasy) and had only one button (though not pressed for us before it left the factory, cf: Dilbert), and thoroughly and completely likely to be destroyed within a week in my pocket or on my belt.

So so far the #1 contender is the BB 8820, for me.  I&#039;ve been thinking that, while a camera would be nice to have on the phone, I&#039;m much more likely to make use of the Wi-Fi than the camera, especially since I specifically picked up a tiny 7MP camera as my &quot;walking around&quot; device (and use my dSLR for planned photo shooting events)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy, thanks for the feedback.  To address the points you made&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, there <em>is</em> a date on the post, apparently in the theme I&#8217;m currently using it&#8217;s at the bottom:</p>
<blockquote><p>This entry was written by emag and posted on March 6, 2008 at 10:09 pm and filed under &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Though it&#8217;s a bit lighter than the rest of the text, so it&#8217;s pretty easy to miss.</p>
<p>Also, the link to phonescoop has an &#8220;Edit search&#8221; link, which in this case goes to their &#8220;weighted&#8221; search page (and with all the weights that I put in for that particular link).  There&#8217;s also a simpler &#8220;unweighted&#8221; search that just lets you enumerate features, but that wasn&#8217;t nearly as helpful, since some features ARE more important to me than others, I just didn&#8217;t feel like trying to come up with a definitive ranking when I was writing the blog post last night. <img src='http://blog.gurski.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As a brief followup, I&#8217;ve also been hitting <a href="http://www.amazon.com/" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>, as well as the bigger <acronym title="Global System for Mobile Communications">GSM</acronym> carriers&#8217; sites (<a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/" rel="nofollow">T-Mobile</a> and <a href="http://www.wireless.att.com/" rel="nofollow">AT&#038;T/Cingular</a> here in the states), but by far in terms of searching based on specific features, phonescoop is by far the best, with Amazon coming in second of where I&#8217;ve looked.</p>
<p>Since my wife (that still sounds so strange!) deals with Blackberries at work, and has an <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=832" rel="nofollow">older one</a> through them, I&#8217;ve played with it a bit, but wasn&#8217;t too fond of the scroll wheel since it was basically 1-dimensional navigation.  I&#8217;d expressed an interest to her in the <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1280" rel="nofollow">Blackberry 8820</a>, which she happened to actually work on today and suggested that we stop by an AT&#038;T store so I could see if I liked it.  It&#8217;s actually a lot nicer than the BB8700 that she has through work, as it has a scroll ball instead of a wheel (yay, 2-D nav!).</p>
<p>I also looked at a few other phones, including the <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1319" rel="nofollow">BB Curve 8310</a>, the current <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1072" rel="nofollow">Palm Treo 680</a>, and some Windows-based phones.  Interface-wise, I really liked the Treo, since I&#8217;ve been using PalmOS for 10 or so years, but it of course lacks Wi-Fi which I still consider *the* feature.  </p>
<p>The Windows phones, especially the <a href="http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1186" rel="nofollow">Pantech Duo C810</a> was really neat, hardware-wise, with 2 separate sliders, one for the numeric pad and one for a keyboard, but I couldn&#8217;t really get past the Windows interface.  Yeah, I&#8217;m probably really biased in that regard, but it just felt&#8230;clunky.</p>
<p>The BB 8820 and BB C 8310 were fairly nice to navigate and play with, and also have added explicit &#8220;back&#8221; and &#8220;menu&#8221; buttons that made using them a bit less-confusing.</p>
<p>I even, though I&#8217;m reluctant to admit it, picked up an iPhone to try out.  Apparently I&#8217;m really NOT the target audience for the thing, as my very first comment had to do with all the fingerprints, and my second was something along the lines of &#8220;how the hell do I get off of this screen?&#8221; (the last person to use it had left it on some app, and it was non-obvious to me how to get back to the main icon page).  It was sleek and shiny (and greasy) and had only one button (though not pressed for us before it left the factory, cf: Dilbert), and thoroughly and completely likely to be destroyed within a week in my pocket or on my belt.</p>
<p>So so far the #1 contender is the BB 8820, for me.  I&#8217;ve been thinking that, while a camera would be nice to have on the phone, I&#8217;m much more likely to make use of the Wi-Fi than the camera, especially since I specifically picked up a tiny 7MP camera as my &#8220;walking around&#8221; device (and use my dSLR for planned photo shooting events)&#8230; <a href="http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/viewcomments/2944818528" rel="nofollow">View all comments by emag</a></p>
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		<title>By: guy de byl</title>
		<link>http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/2008/03/06/mobile-phone-wishlist/comment-page-1/#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>guy de byl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It also would have been helpful to have a date on the article. Perhaps new technologies are now available that haven&#039;t been mentioned in the article. etc... etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also would have been helpful to have a date on the article. Perhaps new technologies are now available that haven&#8217;t been mentioned in the article. etc&#8230; etc. <a href="http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/viewcomments/2051267801" rel="nofollow">View all comments by guy de byl</a></p>
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		<title>By: guy de byl</title>
		<link>http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/2008/03/06/mobile-phone-wishlist/comment-page-1/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>guy de byl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting to a novice like me. I became aware of new features that are available, albeit I didn&#039;t understand some of them. What would have been interesting would have been to have seen a priorty rating on each feature..
 eg..&quot;essential&quot;, very important, important, nice to have 
categories. 
I suspect that categorising them like that would also help the author, as it would help him decide on the best of the bunch of phones offering. I suspect that no phone would have all the features he would like, and so categorising each part of his wish list would help him find the phone that is the best compromise. For example, the &quot;essential feature&quot; category would eliminate a lot of phones that had many features, but not THE one that is essential.

regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting to a novice like me. I became aware of new features that are available, albeit I didn&#8217;t understand some of them. What would have been interesting would have been to have seen a priorty rating on each feature..<br />
 eg..&#8221;essential&#8221;, very important, important, nice to have<br />
categories.<br />
I suspect that categorising them like that would also help the author, as it would help him decide on the best of the bunch of phones offering. I suspect that no phone would have all the features he would like, and so categorising each part of his wish list would help him find the phone that is the best compromise. For example, the &#8220;essential feature&#8221; category would eliminate a lot of phones that had many features, but not THE one that is essential.</p>
<p>regards <a href="http://blog.gurski.org/index.php/viewcomments/2051267801" rel="nofollow">View all comments by guy de byl</a></p>
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